and about the idea of sort of legalizing and focusing on drugs, they say look, we spend more on drug education and treatment than they do on law enforcement. what could they do better? >> what they could do better is simply stop locking people up. if you are sent to prison, you end up in far worse state than if you were actually sent to a drug rehabilitation center and helped. >> you're known as such a free spirit, right? do you smoke marijuana? >> i'm a '60s lad. i tried a split or two when i was a teenager. i decided that drink was my drug of choice, and so i prefer white wine or beer to marijuana, but you know, whether children of mine do, we'll, that's another story. >> i'm sure, right, they're in the age where i suppose it can be. all right, well, thank you very much. really appreciate your time. >> cheers, thank you. >> pretty interesting and serious topic, although he did say afterwards that he would want to try pot brownies. breaking the taboo will be able on youtube this evening and his opinion is on cnn.com/opinion right now and it is amazing. some of the statistics are unforgettable